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I was a PaceSetter tele-marketer, back in the day...
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04/01/14 23:53
127.0.0.1

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04/01/14 23:55
psykofax

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Re: I was a PaceSetter tele-marketer, back in the day...

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Then he described the job. We received stapled sheets of phone numbers and were to call them, in order, reading from a script filled with information and "just the right things to say." If the number had a line through it, we were not to call it. Interesting. That means someone has already called these people, right? He didn't respond to that question. Then he said he would be on the phone with us and would help us handle the call, that the customer would not hear him but we would. He said we were to always ask for "Mr" this or that, or the "man" of the house, and never talk to the women because they didn't know as much about these things and were a lot more likely to hang up (never mind that the vast majority of my calls were answered by women, if they were answered at all). He said that he had made mountains of money with Pace Setter and had started out the same way we were starting out, and if we did well, we could advance in the company, just like him. Ummmm, okay, sure! Why not? Life is weird, after all.

After a total of four hours, including the initial interview, "testing," acceptance, video presentation (45 minutes) and initial information, we were asked if we wanted the job, and we both said "yeah, okay, sure." We were handed the appropriate paperwork and filled them out and were told to report the next morning at 8:45 am for a team meeting. I went home having no idea what was going to happen. He also told us that he would give us two months of work, guaranteed, before letting us go, so we had more than enough time to find our rhythm and get into the "pace" of the job.

I arrived the next morning. The other girl was not there. I was offered a seat in a room. There were other people standing around, team members, as it were. They were young and desperate, like me. I remember this in detail... none of them smiled. They were all nervous, and chose the words they spoke with care. In my experience, people have a variety of things to say about their workplace, even around new hires. Not these people. They said nothing but carefully chosen words about their working there. None of them had been there very long. None of them said anything disparaging about the job. None of them said anything disparaging about our boss, either.

The meeting, led by our boss, commenced, and amounted to everyone talking about how the previous days' calling went and how many appointments they set. In 8 hours, the highest number of appointments set the previous day was six. Sounded like a long day, to me. Then, when everyone had gone through, he made note that the young woman he had hired had not arrived and was therefore fired, and introduced me to the group. Then we went to the call center.

This was not the sort of call center you would find today. In each cubicle was a stapled stack of xerox copies out of various phone books, a couple of pencils, a telephone, and a bulletin board covered with push-pins, and a notebook...no computer, no auto-dialing. This was before the no-call lists were circulating. My job was to start at the top of the sheet and call people and talk to them about Pace Setter, ask if they were home owners, and if they were not, thank them for their time and hang up. If they were, go forward with the script we were given to talk to them about their house, their windows, their siding, their garage doors, and whatever else they might need for their homes, and then try to set them up with an appointment to talk to a sales representative. That day, we were calling South-Central Washington. I sat and listened to some of the other appointment setters to hear what they said. They always said the same thing - they wanted to talk to the man f the house, they were not making a sales call, they were with Pace Setter (have you heard of us? No?! Its because we save you money by selling direct to the customer and not through retail outlets!), very friendly, etc. if the caller was hostile, they returned the hostility in kind, before they identified themselves. Fascinating. I started feeling a little queasy.

04/01/14 23:55
psykofax

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Re: I was a PaceSetter tele-marketer, back in the day...

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My calls went no further than who I was calling for before I was either hung up on, called names and then hung up on, or told never to call back and then hung up on. The only time we were to scratch someone off of one of our lists was when they told us to never call back, otherwise they remained fair game (the lists were circulated, I found out, so in a few months, when they had forgotten that we called, they would get a call back). After about an hour of this, the job started taking a toll on me. I grew nervous, nauseous, and jumpy, especially when my boss would jump in and micro-manage the call for me. You never knew when he was listening in, so you had to be careful with what you said. it was really hard to listen to someone on the phone and have someone else jump in and tell you what to say to keep them on the phone, but I did my best. Then, after two hours, we were given a break. Everyone got a cup of coffee and went outside to smoke cigarettes... I mean everyone. No kidding.

Then, two more hours of the same thing and I was released for lunch...half an hour. Broke, I sat in my car and listened to the radio. Then I went back inside and finished my shift. I left exhausted.

The next day, more of the same. Same meeting, same fellow caller attitudes and behavior, same experience. I was asked how many appointments I was going to set that day... we all had to set goals for ourselves. I said I would be very pleased if I could set one. It didn't happen. At one point, I was told to make up a name for myself... I chose William Bonney (Billy the Kid) because I thought it was funny. It did not help. No one really spoke to me. We were competing with each other to set the highest goals and set the highest number of appointments. They had a real high turnover, I found out, from the only person there who ever spoke to me besides my boss, a young man who had been there for almost six months. He said you can't let it get to you. Just try and take it.

Okay....

At one point, my boss took me aside and said he wanted to demonstrate to me personally how to handle a call. he took my sheet and had me go with him into his office. He called my next number. A woman answered. he asked to speak to Mr. Whomever-they-were (we were to always ask to speak to the man of the house, this was very important). She said that she was the man of the house. he looked me right in the eye, grinned, and said to her, "What happened, were you injured in the war?" and laughed while he hung up. Then he scratched her off his list and called another. He managed to keep this woman on the telephone long enough to set an appointment. He did so by telling her that this was not a sales call, and that he just wanted to send our representative out to take a look at her siding and windows, and talk about any improvements they might need. If they did not need any improvements, then he would leave, no harm, no foul. If he thought they might be interested in having some work done, then he would discuss it with them (both of them, they both had to be there), and there would be no high pressure sales pitch or anything, just a friendly visit, that's all. She bought it! He set an appointment for the rep and told me that was what to do. This may also have been a ruse, but I'll never know. It sure looked like he called someone from my sheet.

So I went back to my desk and started calling again. No dice. The next day... no dice. And the day after that... nothing. I felt like my soul was being removed as if by lipo-suction. Each day I grew more numb to being told an assortment of things that I cannot repeat here. The snarky responses were entertaining but did not help. I was encouraged to be a lot more pushy. One evening, after work, I received a tele-marketing call. It drove it home for me. The job became about finding something else, fast, as soon as possible, and if nothing happened, well, at least I had two months of work and something to do with my time.

I did manage to set one appointment. That was all. After two weeks and one paycheck, I got really sick... probably the stress. I found myself making these calls in my sleep. I felt guilty about calling people in their homes and telling them that it was not a sales call, etc., when it really was a sales call. I tried to call in sick, and my boss told me not to bother coming back, that he could tell I wasn't right for the job and that I was wasting my time, as well as his.

So much for the guarantee of two months work. From what I have read on your site, Pace Setter used deceptive tactics with their employees, as well as their customers, and the only people who made out were those in upper management. Interesting.

Well, there's my story. It is true and accurate to the best of my memory and I hope that you at least found it entertaining.

MofB

04/01/14 23:57
30yrsInBiz

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Re: I was a PaceSetter tele-marketer, back in the day...

I'm not sure what the point of this story is. Telemarketing is used to get business, it's a common practice in many industries to bring their products to the marketplace.

Once when I was young, I sold encyclopedias for a week. The stress of going door to door was too much for me. It made me sick. It wasn't for me. What does that mean? It means it wasn't for me. It's doesn't mean I jump on some website band wagon full of people that has no understanding of how business is done and bad mouth the company I worked for.

I have researched the Pacesetter story. I never worked for them. The bottom line as far as I can see, is that they lost site of customer service. Customer service is king. From what I can see, Pacesetters had thousands and thousands of satisfied customers over a 40 year period. I wonder what the percentage is of customers who had unsatisfied complaints? I'd bet it's a small percentage.

Those of you who are telling others to find a local contractor, you don't know what you're talking about. Local contractors all over this country are notoriously unreliable. Not all, but many. And many small towns can't find anyone to do any work for them. My advice is to find a company that has local referrals, and check them out.

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